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. >> it's time for us to have a home that all of us can be proud of. >> and we couldn't do this without everybody working together on the one goal, which is, let's build something that reflects the honor of hetch hetchy, the honor of the greatest engineering feats, reflects what our puc does for our public, and for generations to come it will educate everybody. >> i'm really proud that one of the greenest and most sustainable buildings is here in norm in district 6. the wind turbine, the solar power, the living machines, recycled water that ed and the mayor has already spoken to. and what's also amazing about this building is it's not just internally, but you can actually see it on the outside. so, when people are walking around the city they can actually see the green and environmental aspects. >> what better way to show that the puc cares about the environment and the puc is going to show everyone else, you can do this, too. and you can do it in a way that makes sense, that's affordable, and that is better for the environment. >> and this is the most energy efficient government buildi
. >> it's time for us to have a home that all of us can be proud of. >> and we couldn't do this without everybody working together on the one goal, which is, let's build something that reflects the honor of hetch hetchy, the honor of the greatest engineering feats, reflects what our puc does for our public, and for generations to come it will educate everybody. >> i'm really proud that one of the greenest and most sustainable buildings is here in norm in district 6. the wind...
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just think everybody here today and 1 dollar from all of us. that can really help and donate at red cross .org and we thank you for your generosity. it was just two years ago that we captured the championship since moving to san francisco and i think we're happy we didn't have to wait until 52 years. [cheers and applause] we've got another trophy in this great city by the bay. [cheers and applause] so today giants fans once again you are all world champions and together we are giants, so we have a wonderful program planned for you today and i know you're anxious to get this started started and bring the guys out and celebrate your 2012 san francisco giants so let's get started. first of all we are joined by a number of special dignitaries who have helped to make san francisco one of the best baseball towns -- no, the best baseball town in america. [cheers and applause] let us now welcome and please show your love and enthusiasm the mayor of city and county of san francisco the honorable edwin lee. former mayor and current lieutenant governor th
just think everybody here today and 1 dollar from all of us. that can really help and donate at red cross .org and we thank you for your generosity. it was just two years ago that we captured the championship since moving to san francisco and i think we're happy we didn't have to wait until 52 years. [cheers and applause] we've got another trophy in this great city by the bay. [cheers and applause] so today giants fans once again you are all world champions and together we are giants, so we...
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and we hope that the technology supports us. >> so commissioners this is, as for the last three years we have been in a process of rethinking general education transportation services. and we are in the presentation tonight, going to share what our budget reduction goals are for the 2013-14 school year. and go over what the approach for developing recommendations for year 3 of changes, and then going into a description of what those recommendations are. the impact of the changes, and an overview of the next steps and the description of some alternatives to yellow bus transportation. in the appendix, just for context, this is an overview of the board's policy guidelines and an overview of the general education transportation services currently available and a summary of the changes that have taken place over the last two years. so i will start with the budget reduction goal. as you know, we are trying to minimize the use of general fund contributions for general education transportation. and so, we need to reduce the fleet by 5 buss from 30 to 25 in the 2013, in the 13, 14 school year
and we hope that the technology supports us. >> so commissioners this is, as for the last three years we have been in a process of rethinking general education transportation services. and we are in the presentation tonight, going to share what our budget reduction goals are for the 2013-14 school year. and go over what the approach for developing recommendations for year 3 of changes, and then going into a description of what those recommendations are. the impact of the changes, and an...
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use this opportunity where we have a fantastic investment in our city. confidence is growing in our city and we will have our gollen state warriors here in 2017. thank you to everybody for being here today. [applause] >> well, you can't have a 25% local hire commitment and a 50% local hire apprenticeship commitment with a private public partnership without a private partner. i would like to introduce rick welts, the president of the golden state warriors. [applause] >> thank you jenn. thank you mayor. you know there is a lot of very, very big decisions that have to be made in a project of this magnitude. our ownership group would love it if the budget was only 500 million but it's going to be in excess of that but i would say the easiest decision we made in the process is the reason that we are here today. throughout this process as welcoming as everyone has been to bring the weariers back to san francisco we have heard a few things loud and clear and one is this has to be a good deal for san francisco as well as a great opportunity for the warriors. whe
use this opportunity where we have a fantastic investment in our city. confidence is growing in our city and we will have our gollen state warriors here in 2017. thank you to everybody for being here today. [applause] >> well, you can't have a 25% local hire commitment and a 50% local hire apprenticeship commitment with a private public partnership without a private partner. i would like to introduce rick welts, the president of the golden state warriors. [applause] >> thank you...
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we have total energy use per floor. we also have energy use in the building today that will show information and percentages on how much is being used today versus an average day. there's also information from solar, how much solar the building is producing, and showing the savings from solar. we also have reclaimed water and that will be shown per month. the center section is dedicated to water, wastewater and power. we have live information showing us how much wastewater has been treated so far from the night before. there is also a twitter feed and information that anyone that comes in can see, you know, current news and information from the twitter. there's also bart information, when is the next bart leaving, when is the next train departing. and there is weather, hetch hetchy, and weather at san francisco. >> the physical arts wall is comprised of 54 feet, 160 high-definition monitors that has a 3-d motion detection that allows you to approach the wall and then to look at the contents that is there in front of you
we have total energy use per floor. we also have energy use in the building today that will show information and percentages on how much is being used today versus an average day. there's also information from solar, how much solar the building is producing, and showing the savings from solar. we also have reclaimed water and that will be shown per month. the center section is dedicated to water, wastewater and power. we have live information showing us how much wastewater has been treated so...
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we could use bae our own tenant to do that. up next the dry dock, they are a sophisticated and dynamite ship repair operation, demolition is historic for them. the economics don't work out quite well. so, we are looking at that option. the third -- fourth, the fifth option, the tbd mark there, it's still on the table where we, through the mayor and part of the project, asked the navy rather to expend all of its funds in the most productive way they can. and at the end put it in a form can easily be returned to us and we go out to bid. these other options here top wise 80 aepre, nav sea, the navy would start to fund them before they're out of the $3 million. we would be forced to go to a sole source contracting vehicle for those. so, i didn't mean to get too much into the wave there. it gets complicated in phase ii and 3. that is the the subject of the resolution that is before you. so, the purpose of the m-o-u is my favorite shout out, by the way, just a side-view. the m-o-u nav sea and titan salvage dry dock number one to begi
we could use bae our own tenant to do that. up next the dry dock, they are a sophisticated and dynamite ship repair operation, demolition is historic for them. the economics don't work out quite well. so, we are looking at that option. the third -- fourth, the fifth option, the tbd mark there, it's still on the table where we, through the mayor and part of the project, asked the navy rather to expend all of its funds in the most productive way they can. and at the end put it in a form can...
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it empowers us. the economic shift in the new businesses of creating and exchanging value is creating a new cultural narrative. it is replacing an old legacy narrative that was toxic. it told us the go live comes from shopping and competition -- it told us the good life comes from shopping in competition, from being free from each other. we are leading ving this because it has pushed us to the brink of extinction. it has enslaved as to debt. it is boring. it is spiritually empty. there is a news story being born in san francisco. it is one where the more you contribute to the common good, the more you are respected. the better you believe in committee, the more access to what you have -- the better you behave in a community, the more access you have. instead of judging each other, we help each other and realize our greatest potential. we open our world to each other. through doing that, we are liberated. we find freedom through our relationships. i have lived both of these stories. the old one almost
it empowers us. the economic shift in the new businesses of creating and exchanging value is creating a new cultural narrative. it is replacing an old legacy narrative that was toxic. it told us the go live comes from shopping and competition -- it told us the good life comes from shopping in competition, from being free from each other. we are leading ving this because it has pushed us to the brink of extinction. it has enslaved as to debt. it is boring. it is spiritually empty. there is a...
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or are we using conservative? >> what we have here is more conservative than what is in the management plan. and also we know that the likelihood that the instance in which it is going to drop and come back up, we feel that funding the stablization fund of $15 million we are going to be in a position to weather that. and then in the cash flows in the years, 2019 and 26 or so. those are the years where the expansion or the assessment in addition to the cost, they generally are resulting in a net impact that is a negative value >> correct. >> meaning that the city is on the hook for putting in the additional funding. >> yes. >> but that could be different based on the fact that we used more conservative cop debt issue ans numbers and lower conservative assessment numbers? >> yeah. >> is there any other reason why that would change? >> off the top, no. i think that the most the interest rate and second it would be to the term, which is why we are proposing taking it out longer. knowing that if the market improved we
or are we using conservative? >> what we have here is more conservative than what is in the management plan. and also we know that the likelihood that the instance in which it is going to drop and come back up, we feel that funding the stablization fund of $15 million we are going to be in a position to weather that. and then in the cash flows in the years, 2019 and 26 or so. those are the years where the expansion or the assessment in addition to the cost, they generally are resulting in...
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using energy. and i think that it creates a wonderful counter point in balance to the transamerica pyramid. thank you. >> are there any questions for our presenter? >> seeing none, thank you very much. it was very, beautiful. and it was great to see the full design, and i appreciate actually seeing it from multiple perspectives from the city lines. thank you. >> okay. >> we will go ahead and move into your next system. >> item 8 is approving an amendment authorizing to award a subcore contract in an aamount not-to-exceed $9 million over four years. personnel and material services increasing authorized costs by 9 million 250,000 and increasing the authorized construction services,. >> directors, dikes will report on this item. >> good morning, directors. brian dikes, principle engineer. this trade package is to provide four personnel and material lift hoists one for each section or zone of the construction, so that you always have a quick safeway to get people out if they are hurt and equally that i
using energy. and i think that it creates a wonderful counter point in balance to the transamerica pyramid. thank you. >> are there any questions for our presenter? >> seeing none, thank you very much. it was very, beautiful. and it was great to see the full design, and i appreciate actually seeing it from multiple perspectives from the city lines. thank you. >> okay. >> we will go ahead and move into your next system. >> item 8 is approving an amendment...
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one of those divers involved in last nights recovery talked to us about the technique the team used. >> we have something called a circle search. we put an anchor at the bottom and buoy at the top. we have a divers station and another diver that circles that anchor in radial motion. searching for our target. the >> reporter: thus far authorities haven't identity of the man that drowned here. the fire department is describing him of being in his late 50s or early 60s. he may have fallen as many as 100 feet last night. as we come back out here live firefighters do say they did end up fighting a cat on this hillside last night. they believe it belongs to the man who died. alex savidge ktvu channel 2 news. >>> if you are getting ready to head out the door, leave yourself plenty of time to get to your destination. wet roads is causing a big mess for drivers. this is what it looked like overnight in oakland. the accident happened on northbound 880 but no one was hurt. the rain caused flooding throughout the bay area. you are looking at -- the rainy weather also causing a nightmare at bay a
one of those divers involved in last nights recovery talked to us about the technique the team used. >> we have something called a circle search. we put an anchor at the bottom and buoy at the top. we have a divers station and another diver that circles that anchor in radial motion. searching for our target. the >> reporter: thus far authorities haven't identity of the man that drowned here. the fire department is describing him of being in his late 50s or early 60s. he may have...
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we're maximizing the use of natural daylighting. we also have light sensors that minimize the use of artificial lighting. >> by having light outside the building skin, what that does is we are mitigating it before it hits the glass. we have a high performance, low formal gain graph. the system does not have to work as much to either cool the building or heat the building. >> this building also incorporates or utilizes under floor system for delivery of heating and cooling to the building. this in conjunction with the high efficiency equipment that we've installed in the building reduces the consumption of energy for heating and cooling by 51%. >> we have two destination elevators. destination elevator save 35 to 40% of the electrical energy over traditional elevator. these elevators save energy by using a regenerative drive. when the cars are going up empty or down full of people, they generate electricity that goes back into the building grid. these elevators have energy by grouping people going to the same floor in the same cab. a
we're maximizing the use of natural daylighting. we also have light sensors that minimize the use of artificial lighting. >> by having light outside the building skin, what that does is we are mitigating it before it hits the glass. we have a high performance, low formal gain graph. the system does not have to work as much to either cool the building or heat the building. >> this building also incorporates or utilizes under floor system for delivery of heating and cooling to the...
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(applause). . >> yeah, mayorly thank you very much for the letting us use your house here tonight and letting -- we really appreciate it we know that you ran from the game to get here and so we really appreciate your commitment to our community and we are happy that you are here to celebrate this momentous day with us. we have an awesome community here, we are here to celebrate the awesomeness of our community the dedication of our community and, you know we are hebe here to serve all of you so really this award should go to everybody here in our community. thank you very much. (applause). >>> and i just want to echo jeff's words and say thank you for having us here today and thank you all for joining us and we look forward to many more arab heritage month celebrations and as well as our bigger community center and you know, through all of the different work that we do in different arab organization, different community organizationings it's about strengthening our community and contributing to the amazing cultural land scam of our city and we are very thankful to here today. >> and t
(applause). . >> yeah, mayorly thank you very much for the letting us use your house here tonight and letting -- we really appreciate it we know that you ran from the game to get here and so we really appreciate your commitment to our community and we are happy that you are here to celebrate this momentous day with us. we have an awesome community here, we are here to celebrate the awesomeness of our community the dedication of our community and, you know we are hebe here to serve all of...
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call us. say, i can't get down there i have, they might come out with 50 gallon drums if you have waste or oil they will come and pick it up. if you have gasoline you haven't used in a while they will come and pick it up. the main thing is safety. we don't want to end up like this guy. he didn't heed the warnings. for each one of these to carry out this guy, how many guys are backing them up? i figure 4 a piece. we don't send in a team unless we have the same amount of people and then some to back them up. to get you to gage what an incident is the guy with the big thumb. the rule of thumb is this. if you cover the incident with your thumb you are far enough away. does it look like he's got it covered with his thumb? you see the smoke going to the side. he's still too close. he's got to back up further even with the rule of thumb. we want you to view the rule of time, distance and shielding. what's time, don't stick around. distance. get far away. shielding means put something solid in between
call us. say, i can't get down there i have, they might come out with 50 gallon drums if you have waste or oil they will come and pick it up. if you have gasoline you haven't used in a while they will come and pick it up. the main thing is safety. we don't want to end up like this guy. he didn't heed the warnings. for each one of these to carry out this guy, how many guys are backing them up? i figure 4 a piece. we don't send in a team unless we have the same amount of people and then some to...
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probably everyone has tried, something bacon tell us delicious. >> -- people tell us is delicious. >> hopefully you think the same thing. >> hopefully i am going to win. we're in the financial district. there is a food truck right there. every day changes. it is easy and fun to go down. these are going to be really good. >> how are you going to dominate? >> i think he does not know what he is doing. >> i was thinking of doing [unintelligible] we are underrepresented. >> i was singing of starting an irish pub. that was my idea. >> one our biggest is the corned beef and cabbage. we are asking people what they're thinking in getting some feedback. >> for a lot of people i am sure this combination looks very wrong. it might not sound right on paper but when you taste it to or have it in your mouth, it is a variety. this is one of the best ways in creating community. people gather around and talk about it and get to know different cultures. that brings people together and i hope more off the grid style and people can mingle and interact and remove all our differences and work on our simila
probably everyone has tried, something bacon tell us delicious. >> -- people tell us is delicious. >> hopefully you think the same thing. >> hopefully i am going to win. we're in the financial district. there is a food truck right there. every day changes. it is easy and fun to go down. these are going to be really good. >> how are you going to dominate? >> i think he does not know what he is doing. >> i was thinking of doing [unintelligible] we are...
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and it is in current public use. and it needs to be brought up to ada compliance and meet other safety standards. the other thing that the permit includes is a new drop off point and a new pick up point for people that are coming to enjoy the park. it will create a safe place for this as opposed to the sidewalk drop off that is currently on elk street which frequently has a fair amount of traffic. the permit does not deal with snramp matters. the trees in the plantings as i understand it are not particularly subject to the permitting process unless there are street trees, i may be wrong on that but that is my understanding. the appeal states that the out reach process, done by tpl and rec and park was flawed and clarity was bad. after attending a majority of the meetings, i can state that the project presentation was done unusually well both carefully and thoroughly, there are multiple opportunities for inquiry and input and the processes proceeded from meeting to meeting and the fliers had letters a quarter of an in
and it is in current public use. and it needs to be brought up to ada compliance and meet other safety standards. the other thing that the permit includes is a new drop off point and a new pick up point for people that are coming to enjoy the park. it will create a safe place for this as opposed to the sidewalk drop off that is currently on elk street which frequently has a fair amount of traffic. the permit does not deal with snramp matters. the trees in the plantings as i understand it are...
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. >> today we submitted additional four petitions that brought us. we originally submitted them to the board in september, but they have gone up to more of a trickled in so now it is at 53.97 percent and support. >> is there a period when you stop counting? >> yes, now. >> now, okay. >> right, because if this resolution is approved by the full board, then the ballots will be made out and the hotels will have a second chance to weigh in, a second time through the formal ballot process. >> and then i guess the question for you in terms of the 54 percent of the total weight of the beginning of the process, there is only two percent roughly that was in opposition. so there is a 40 plus that did not participate. >> correct. >> i wonder if those are hotels, and what kind of out reach to them and i know that we will be mailing ballots to those entities, but at the same time is there an opportunity to educate them, something beyond the ballot and how do you reach out to those who are less involved with the process. >> so i will tell you the formal process an
. >> today we submitted additional four petitions that brought us. we originally submitted them to the board in september, but they have gone up to more of a trickled in so now it is at 53.97 percent and support. >> is there a period when you stop counting? >> yes, now. >> now, okay. >> right, because if this resolution is approved by the full board, then the ballots will be made out and the hotels will have a second chance to weigh in, a second time through the...
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to us. thank you.. >> good afternoon commissioners my name is josh should youa and i'm from the housing program of the vettians equity center, we have over 400 clients consistenting of families and workers and one crucial concern is impact on ever increasing rents and fishingcies are more expensive by square foot and more expensive to produce and prompt owners are more likely to raids rent when given the opportunity to do so and yet we show need for affordable housing especially in areas where these are to be built. many families needed affordable housing for deck aids and what we need is affordable housing for seniors and housing that is not limit today a post. and the many policy questions raised by this new development type. not spof sporing it's cap would restrain development based on insufficient information and signals, thank you for listen and is please volt to cap this what we need is more housing and seniors in the housing market. >> good even commissioners, my inarm is charm leeta
to us. thank you.. >> good afternoon commissioners my name is josh should youa and i'm from the housing program of the vettians equity center, we have over 400 clients consistenting of families and workers and one crucial concern is impact on ever increasing rents and fishingcies are more expensive by square foot and more expensive to produce and prompt owners are more likely to raids rent when given the opportunity to do so and yet we show need for affordable housing especially in areas...
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as families we want to keep the students with us. i don't want to be separated from them so please focus on building more affordable housing here in san francisco and afford this cap on the legislation. thank you so much for your time. have a good one. >> good evening everyone. i am linda jimenez. i am with -- [inaudible] this is in regard to the 375 units that you guys are building and what i am requesting for some of the people -- not to add more units on this one. now i livehere and can't do this anymore. i have two grandkids in college soon >> [speaking foreign language] >> so i am here today to ask you guys for your support for the 375 cap on this legislation because as she said that as a low income family she says she don't want -- first of all she don't want this legislation. second if you are going to build this please put a cap on 375. >> [speaking foreign language] >> she says instead of you building this micro units we advise that if you can please focus more on affordable housing i.d
as families we want to keep the students with us. i don't want to be separated from them so please focus on building more affordable housing here in san francisco and afford this cap on the legislation. thank you so much for your time. have a good one. >> good evening everyone. i am linda jimenez. i am with -- [inaudible] this is in regard to the 375 units that you guys are building and what i am requesting for some of the people -- not to add more units on this one. now i livehere and...
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, and pieces that they can't use. so we are allowing them, again, because we have irrigation in the ground so they can use, and if they put up a tent they can stake a tent in some places, they can't stake a tent in other places. so we are protecting the golden gate park asset. >> so what is really special about the partnership is not just the incredible music, that about 70,000 of our closest friends are listening to right now, but for the respect that everybody has for this park and the work that we do with the outside land music promoters to make sure that in a few short weeks, what you see out here will again be a beautiful, green, field filled with children playing soccer. >> everything pops back up, we are getting better and better as the years go by. bringing it back real quick, that is what we do. we bring the grass back and make sure that the plants are not destroyed. >> we work year round to plan for this event to make sure that all of the waste is picked up. 77 percent of all of the waste is diverted or recy
, and pieces that they can't use. so we are allowing them, again, because we have irrigation in the ground so they can use, and if they put up a tent they can stake a tent in some places, they can't stake a tent in other places. so we are protecting the golden gate park asset. >> so what is really special about the partnership is not just the incredible music, that about 70,000 of our closest friends are listening to right now, but for the respect that everybody has for this park and the...
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but maybe you can send us back some information. tell us about some steps that you go through to get help like that. and if they are giving the same opportunity as a person with a physical disability. >> i will say briefly that that is definitely something that we talked about in looking at things that people have access to services, getting good information, that the enforcement is good. we want to make sure that is true for every person with a disability. in looking at the enforcement, the idea came out early on and i'm sorry, i will go on too long, having a separate enforcement time if the problem affects a senior or person with disability. how do people document whether the person had disabilities? that gets complicated. a lot of people get left out. those of things that we thought about. it sounds like it is an area where you have specific ideas. we can make sure that if people have invisible disabilities, and have needs, we want to hear them. >> the concept of reasonable accommodation under the fair housing amendment act. part
but maybe you can send us back some information. tell us about some steps that you go through to get help like that. and if they are giving the same opportunity as a person with a physical disability. >> i will say briefly that that is definitely something that we talked about in looking at things that people have access to services, getting good information, that the enforcement is good. we want to make sure that is true for every person with a disability. in looking at the enforcement,...
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a lot, there aren't that many alternatives that can do what plastic wrap does, i don't use a lot of it and it's harder to store things long-term and same question applies for the freezer, it's easier to put things in a freezer bag. >> so, a little tip for that is i do admit to using plastic bags, i reuse them and if something is not -- i don't use them for liquids and if something isn't somehow already kind of like a solid or whatever, parchment paper around that and then use the plastic just as the thing that keeps it from leak-proof or if i'm taking soup to work, i have my soup in a glass jar but i will throw it in plastic because i don't want it all over my backpack and there's also more stainless steel options which are a little more expensive but that's a one-time investment, just don't lose it, so a box of plastic bags, it lasts me like three year, parchment paper, it's the layer that touches your food and then aluminum foil isn't really bad, but parchment paper is a good thing. >> plastics in kids toys and kids products, they're not really labeled, i don't find the same symbo
a lot, there aren't that many alternatives that can do what plastic wrap does, i don't use a lot of it and it's harder to store things long-term and same question applies for the freezer, it's easier to put things in a freezer bag. >> so, a little tip for that is i do admit to using plastic bags, i reuse them and if something is not -- i don't use them for liquids and if something isn't somehow already kind of like a solid or whatever, parchment paper around that and then use the plastic...